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This is a place for all sorts of off-topic discussion.

You can post anon or un-anon, per your personal preference, as usual.

All I ask is that you stay civil and (hopefully) friendly.

If you also want to use this thread to try to find a beta for a fic, or ask a brit-pick-ish question, I think that would be an acceptable use. Have fun!

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Food, glorious food

(Anonymous)
So there's this stereotype that British food is bad. As a Brit, I have no idea where this has come from or why people think this - I love our food! Anybody know why this is, or where it originated?

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Partly due to xenophobia, likely, and also because there's the idea that organ meat and traditional foods are somehow gross or bad. *shrug* I'm from the South so I don't have much room to talk, lol. The "British food=bad" trope is usually uttered in conjunction with offal, boiled dishes or things that lack seasoning typical to the complainer's usual fare.

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I have a bit of a dilemma guys.
I have been working on this fill for a few days now, and I'm really quite happy with it - however somebody else has already submitted a fill for that particular prompt.

Should I still post the story, I don't want to piss off the current filler but I really do like this prompt

...So - what do you think?

Maybe wait until they've finished, and then post yours.

Or drop them a question - "hey I really like this, it's an interesting take on this prompt! I don't want to step on your toes but I was also inspired to write a fill. You won't mind if I post, the more the merrier, right?"

There's no reason why a prompt can't have multiple fills.

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Forgive me meme, but I am looking for a general consensus on Sherlock's pants (underwear).

I'm thinking with suits that fitted, briefs rather than boxers? Or slim fit boxers?

I can't see him wearing anything too patterned either.

In my fevered little mind, I go with commando or boxer-briefs, usually a dark color and hideously overpriced.

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Fandom Survey!

(Anonymous)
So, here we all are, in this fandom. And what a nice fandom it is! It has some really, really intelligent authors, and there really is a minimum of snobbery and wank compared to other fandoms that I've been a part of.

That being said, what was your very first fandom? The one that started it all?

Myself - I started with Star Wars (ohohoho) and moved very quickly on to Lord of the Rings. I actually looked up some of the fanfiction I used to enjoy for those fandoms and oh.... man.... just doesn't do it for me anymore...

Conversely, I really WISH that the Being Human fandom was bigger, or at least more active.

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(Anonymous)
This is my first, and only. Though I was and will always be pretty obsessed with LOST.

I'm worried that it may be a gateway fandom though.. I've been innocently circling Gaiman fandoms.........

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Personal, would LOVE advice

(Anonymous)
So, here's the thing. I've had several boyfriends. None have been overly serious, and the longest was 4 months.

The newest one was over tonight. We hung out, watched movies, and fooled around some.

My thing is....I love hanging out, and going on dates, and being with the other person. I love making out and above waist touching. (anon is a virgin.) But any time it goes farther than that, ie below waist nudity, I just feel horribly guilty and get bored, almost. I've dumped two guys within days of this happening.

Does anyone have any advice for me? Anon is very upset and confused right now and would like to know what's going on so she can fix it. :/

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(Anonymous)
Guilty because you think you should want sex with your boyfriend? Yeah, I had the same problem. I'm not sure how you could 'fix it'. You can't make yourself want something. The best thing would probably be to talk with him about it, but I know how hard that is, I never did with mine. But if you think there's a chance he would understand, do.

The only advise I can give is, don't have sex if you don't really want it. I did and it wasn't horrible, but it didn't really help matters either. I was still bored and still felt guilty for not being into it. And it was very confusing for him and the whole relationship was a terrible train wreck.

The thing is, I'm not much into romance either, so I'm just single and have some close friends and that's okay for me, but I see how it would be more difficult if you wanted an intimate relationship without wanting the sex. :/ I guess what it boils down to is that you have to find someone who likes you the way you are (hello cliché) and for that you have to be honest with them. And it sucks in a world where love=sex.

Sorry, that was probably not all that consoling. But you're not the only one who feels that way. I hope you can work something out with your boyfriend.

Is it just that Americans think that the English think tea is the "Englishman's cure for everything," or do the English joke about this themselves? (Yourselves?) I just seem to have come across this rather a lot lately and was wondering if America made that up because John made tea like, one time in canon and it morphed into his consuming passion...

Actually, now I have another question. Did John ever make tea in canon, or does fandom just think he was thinking about it because he thinks it's the Englishman's cure for everything?

Also, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?

I don't think John actually does make tea at any point. He's seen drinking what we can assume is tea (particularly in the scene in his old flat, which he would have had to have made for himself but it could well be coffee), Sherlock feels free to ask for tea ("A severed head!" "Just tea for me, thanks."), Mrs Hudson offers to make him tea and he accepts and at the end of Blind Banker Sherlock is seen serving what is most likely tea but I don't think we've ever actually seen John make tea...

But as for it being the Englishman's cure for everything: Yes. Yes it is.

On D Day the second wave of the British Soldiers on the beaches (after the first wave had pushed back the Germans somewhat) had to be told off for setting up camps to serve up tea when they should have been heading inland to help with the fight.
In Korea injured british soldiers were given tea, which caused problems when they had stomach injuries.
When someone moves in next to you an always welcome friendly overture is to take round a flask of tea (as the kettle is apparently one of the hardest things to find)
Everytime a workman comes round it is considered polite to offer him tea (It is sometimes suggested that British builders would be as fast as Polish ones if they cut down their tea drinking by half).
Certain professions, such as social workers and vicars, have to learn how to drink tea of varying quality in order to get by because anywhere they visit they will be offered tea (or sometimes coffee) and in a situation where they are trying to gain the trust of a stranger to refuse tea would be considered odd (I knew a vicar who, due to problems with his blood pressure, could only drink decaffinated coffee and used to take a little tub around with him so he could produce it when he was offered tea)

Basically go anywhere in England and you will be offered tea (and sometimes 'with coffee' will be added but it will be instant)

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Lestrade question

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Sorry if this has been asked before, but could anyone suggest an area of London Lestrade was likely to have lived in when married with kids about five years ago (as in fanon)?
In the fill I'm writing he had a comfortable lifestyle pre divorce as his wife's parents were fairly well off, helped them get a decent family house etc which she kept. Thanks in advance.

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I'm sure others will be able to give you more specific advice, but the trouble is that a comfortable family house in a nice part of London could well be between £1M and 2£M (maybe more 5 years ago when the housing boom was at its peak.)

By comparison Lestrade as a Met DI in 2006 would be earning in the region of £42-k - £48k, so to help them get that kind of house her parents wouldn't be fairly well off, they'd be millionaries.

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'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy' trailer

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For anyone interested in the upcoming 'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy' movie *casting spoiler ahead* featuring our own dear Benedict, here's the teaser trailer which just came out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aco15ScXCwA

I think it looks friggin' amazing.

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I don't like John le Carré much, because I think his characters are painfully dry. But. God, with that cast I don't even care. I'm so excited.

Just need to spill

Yesterday my mom had a lipotripsy to get rid of a kidney stone. Last night she got up, was really dizzy and blacked out. When she came to, she was incoherent and had couldn't hold her head up. It was scary. I thought she was having a stroke. I'd never called 911 before.

So after the firetruck and ambulance came and my house was flooded with paramedics (none of whom were the supermodels that movies and tv have promised me), she was carted off to the hospital. I got a call from my dad about 6 hours later saying she was having internal bleeding in her kidneys and her blood pressure and oxygen was low so they put her in ICU.

Today she is alert and doing better, her levels are more toward normal. It's really weird though, sitting at home waiting to hear news. Neither my dad or I know what to do with ourselves. It's really quite depressing.

I just needed to get that out. All this sitting and waiting is driving me nuts.

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I hope your mom is better soon. That must have been terribly scary. But she's in hospital and they're taking care of her, so the best you can do for her right now is try to get some rest. She's probably worried about how you all are coping while she's in hospital, so the best you can do is take care of yourself and your family and let the doctors and nurses take care of her. News will come when it comes. Best and brightest hopes to you and your family.

Quextion for Classic Whovians

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Let's try this without the bonus anon-fail. /no-one saw that right? even though this isn't an embarrassing question aor anything -.-

I was just looking at this interesting graph about the Doctor's Companions;
http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/doctorwhocompanions.jpg

But one thing has really, really confused me, since all my knowledge from classic series has come from various DW books & encyclopedias and the like, enough, that I'm familiar with who the Classic companions are.

How is Jamie connected to Ten?

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Probably via the ep Tooth and Claw where Ten and Rose are in Scotland during the Victorian era.

TTSS trailer music question

Does anyone know where the music for the Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy trailor is from? It sounds so familiar but anon cannot place it...

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And yet another anon fail! ;-)

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*Rolls up sleeves*

Hope I can help!

Location - poor areas tend to be around the centres of industrial cities such as Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Glasgow and obviously London. In the 70s and 80s in particular due to the government cutting back industries such as mining and steel, neighbourhoods and villages centred around those industries became notoriously poverty-stricken, in part due to strikes and in part due to general unemployment. Sheffield in particular was badly hit in this respect, as was the North East, the West Midlands and South Wales. Any of these places might be a good place to start if you're looking for a working-class backdrop. In London, areas such as Shoreditch, Rotherhithe, Hackney, Bethnal Green and Peckham spring to mind, though I'm not a Londoner myself. Hopefully someone else will set us both straight!

Accent: Accents can be easy to mask. I have a horrendous accent myself and I could talk 'properly' but I just choose not to. Obviously even if I was consciously masking my accent there would be some regional/class tells that could give me away. One of my friends has an accent akin to RP (received pronunciation/standard English - you can actually have lessons/coaching in this so that might be an idea for your fic?) but when he went away to university (oop north), people were still able to tell where he was from due to the way he said certain words. If a child was trying to disguise their accent it would obviously be less successful, but adults are able to mask theirs to a reasonable degree, should they choose to.

Job: It would be realistic for the mother to have had a steady job supporting her family and the father not working in the 70s/80s, particularly if the father was striking or had been made unemployed. Possible jobs would include cleaning (schools, shopping centres, pubs etc), working as a dinnerlady in a school, working in a corner shop or similar for someone else, factory work, typing/secretarial/admin work (though the last one would probably be seen as upper-working/lower-middle class work).

The Dole: Again, common in the late 70s and most of the 80s due to the economic climate and high unemployment. 'Drunk dad on the dole' is a stereotype but unfortunately founded in truth so I don't think it would be unreasonable to include, as long as it wasn't taken to excess with any other characters on income support being raging alcoholics, for instance. British TV and films are usually quite good about the presentation of these sorts of things - The Full Monty is an excellent example.

Social Aid: Not overly sure about this. There's free school meals or 'dinner tickets' for children whose families are on income support and they can receive financial assistance from the school/local authority for things like uniform and school trips. At least they used to be able to, I'm not entirely sure how it'll go after the latest lot of cutbacks! The dole is there to cover the cost of living and council housing was widely available until Margaret Thatcher's scheme where people could buy and own their own council houses. Council housing is still available but there are huge waiting lists as far as I know. In addition, all families receive child benefit, usually at around £100 per month for each child. The attitude to social help varies from family to family and different areas and kinship networks. People who are used to earning their own money and being able to provide for themselves and their families would probably feel ashamed/embarrassed to be relying on such support. However, more recently with second and third generations of families being unemployed, there's much less of a stigma about it and it can be seen as a preferable alternative to work.

Really hope this helps, let me know if you want me to expand/explain anything further! <3

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To the Ends of the Earth

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Spoiler warning!

For those who have watched the mini-series: I'm still a bit confused over the ending of the first part and how they resolved Colley's death. How exactly did he die? What happened with the drunkenness? All I got was that he was involved in some homosexual activities while he was on-board, but I never got the big altercation with the captain that Edmund missed and that Colley asked an apology for, and wasn't that supposed to be crucial?

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It's been quite awhile since I've seen it, but doesn't the parson run afoul of some class/rank distinction, inadvertently committing a social gaffe and disrespecting the captain? (Going somewhere off-limits or something like that, if I remember correctly.) Edmund had been a bit informal with the whole thing because his privilege gave him the liberty to do so without real repercussions, but the parson didn't have the standing to do the same thing and 'get away with it.' Colley was simply naive, and thought what he did was fine because Edmund did the same thing, but it was a serious affront in the eyes of the captain.

The rejection/humiliation starts that downward spiral to drunkness and relenting to homosexuality in a rather degrading way and he never comes back from that.

(That's what I remember, anyway.)

Speedy's

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Does anyone in the UK or who has visited the filming locations have any detailed information on Speedy's Cafe? What do they serve? What are the shop hours? What's the interior layout like? Is there seating inside or is it just a takeaway?

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Quick Tip about Captchas, fyi

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The way recaptcha works is as follows:

1. It gives you one word it knows, and one word it doesn't.
2. You put in the answers for the two words.
3. If you get the word it knows correct, it will assume you put in a correct definition for the word it doesn't know.
4. It passes you, and records your answer for the unknown word.
5. If a lot of people have the same answer for the unknown word, it becomes a known word.

This means that if you see one word that makes sense on a captcha, and one word that's nonsense (greek letters, arabic, upside-down, etc), put in the word that makes sense, and make a guess for the other one (or put whatever; it can't tell), and you'll still pass the captcha.


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But always, always complain about the nonsense Captcha Mycroft gives you because it amuses us. ;)