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This is a place for all sorts of off-topic discussion.

You can post anon or un-anon, per your personal preference, as usual.

All I ask is that you stay civil and (hopefully) friendly.

If you also want to use this thread to try to find a beta for a fic, or ask a brit-pick-ish question, I think that would be an acceptable use. Have fun!


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Sherlock Reaching Out For Companionship Before John.

I'm running w/this head canon thing!

You know 'unable to connect emotionally Sherlock who eventually stopped trying?'

I don't think he stopped trying, at least trying HIS way. All that flashy showing off for John, deducing his life via a handful of clues, he's obviously done that for others. Their response? "Piss off."

Here's this baffling, seemingly stiff, detached, humorless fellow (we viewers/readers know that's not the case, we're privy to his wounded facial/eye flickers, his child-like glee and sulking fits, flashes of marvelous sarcastic humor.) reeling off facts about the person or people around him, from the mundane to the embarrassing, w/out stopping to take a breath or engage in conversation or even assess the climate created by his deductions. W/out a more intimate knowledge of him, he would come off as a know-it-all, clueless, selfish, even mean.

At best, he'd be treated as a tolerated oddity, the freaky 'group pet' as his time at uni seems to be described by Sebastian Wilkes. No one claimed him as a friend, he was probably treated more like a goofy but sometimes annoying dog by his uni mates.

That's why his talent being described by Sebastian to his new friend John as a 'trick' still has power to wound Sherlock all these years later, make him inefficiently mutter, "not a trick!'

He's played his best card, his extraordinary talent, over and over, baffled why others aren't impressed, enthralled, clamoring for his companionship. Maybe it's soured over the years into an "I don't care if they hate me' standpoint but that flash of happy surprise during the cab ride, the puzzlement and pleasure in Sherlock's face that John didn't react hostilely, in fact, reacted in a friendly, impressed manner seemed, to me, the personal deductions HAD been Sherlock's way of reaching out. And, after all this time, it finally reaped a reward.

Finally, did anyone else feel a bit of heart ache when Sherlock told John he enjoyed company when he went out?

Re: Sherlock Reaching Out For Companionship Before John.

Have you read this? There's certainly a lot of support for your interpretation in the book canon.

Trying to find a fill!

I'm looking for a fill about the Holmes brothers taking over the world, and John Watson being stuff in the midst of conflict without knowing what is going on. I looked through the wip on delicious but couldn't find it.

Re: Trying to find a fill!

It sounds like it might be this one:

There's also another one about Sherlock and Mycroft ruling the world here, if you're interested:

Neither have been updated in a while, though. :(

Molly Needs Rationality!

I've wondered why Molly never was straight w/Sherlock, 'Look, the hair flattery, flirting is silly. You want access to Barts, I want to fuck you, lets make a deal.'

It's no less disingenuous then his Machiavellian manipulations. In fact, it's honest and forthright for both sides. Win-win.

Re: Molly Needs Rationality!

Maybe the mere thought of striking a bargain for sex with someone completely disinterested in sleeping with her turns her stomach for a wide variety of reasons. God knows it would mine.

If you had endless funds of course...

I'm stuck hosting a posse of 10 year old boys for New Years and the livingroom has turned into an endless nerf-gun battle, so I need some distraction.

So guys, if you were a relative of Sherlock n company, what would you give them for Christmas.

I'd give Sherlock one of the Professor Layton because it will drive him nuts with how simple it is, but he'll still finish it just so he could sneer accurately. I'd give John one of the Katamari games because I think he'd enjoy it and the irrationality of it would drive Sherlock nuts.

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Re: If you had endless funds of course...

"What is that thing? And how are you 'rolling up the world' John? What about the laws of physics?!"

...Though on second thoughts, Sherlock may know nothing about the laws of physics, and thus find nothing objectionable about the science of Katamari.


When you comment on something - on the meme or at someone's journal - do you want a response from the poster? Or don't care? Does getting a response make you more inclined to comment again?

I don't mind if I don't get a response, and if I do I want it to be one that seems like they've read my comment, not be a generic thank you.

I love getting comments on my fics of course! Even a generic one is pleasing.

Re: Comments

I don't mind not getting replies on the meme, but I like when people thank me for my comment in a journal. Even if it's just a thank you at least I didn't waste my time telling them what I thought about their story.

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When a prompt is seconded or thirded, does it make a difference in your enthusiasm to write it? Assuming you have multiple fills you are working on, would you put preference on the one more people want to see?

Re: Authors

It tends to make me skip it. I think it's that part of our psychology that says "Oh, good. Someone else is taking care of it."

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Hours? Minutes? Seconds?

How much time do you spend on the meme a day?

I'm asking because some of the non-Anons seem to post here 24/7 and pop out one fic after another which makes me srsly wonder if they actually have a life? I mean, I always thought I spent way too much time online/ on the meme and I'm happy if I manage to catch up with the prompts and write a fill or two per week, so I was wondering...

Re: Hours? Minutes? Seconds?

Must say I've wondered this, how the group of names you see all over the place prompting, filling, commenting get anything else done, when I'm lucky if I can keep up and manage a fill a week with everything else I have to do!

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Relevant to your interests?


It's a Psych/Sherlock crossover. :D

Expressive faces of epicness indeed! I like the way your mind works.


Is there anyone else who doesn't ship John/Sherlock?

It's weird, because I ship canon!Holmes and Watson like it's my goddamn job and squee over every little touch or moment of kindness between them. But John/Sherlock doesn't do it for me at all. I don't know why, I'm just not interested. I do like darker stories, with mutual manipulation, or the 'last night was a mistake' type of fic. Fluff though, or even generally a healthy established relationship? Not interested. I'm so doing it wrong, aren't I? :)

What are your non-John/Sherlock shipping preferences?

Re: Shipping

You're not weird :) Every Holmes adaptation puts a different spin on the characters, so it's not surprising you'd react to them a different way. Sometimes they strike you as slashy...sometimes they don't. I'm not big on S/J myself unless it's really dark and dysfunctional; I'm mostly here for the gen.

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I'm...currently drawing a picture of Sherlock. But I really need some advice.. Anyone interested? I'm quite desperate. Since it's almost due. Please leave a comment here if you are interested! Thank you.

(I'm anoning, because I'm .....too shy? Sorry. ;_;)

Re: Help?

I'd offer to help, but I'm not sure what kind of advice you might want... I have no artistic talent and know nothing about any software. But I could try if no one else offers?

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Ugly American here with a dumb question.

British to American translation needed.

I've Googled, I've checked slang sites, I've even tried the unreliable LJSeek. To no avail.

SO, my fellow memememers. What does 'a patch on' or 'not a patch on' mean?

Specifically when John says, "I knew it was dangerous. Getting you into crap telly" and Sherlock answers, "not a patch on Connie Prince," what does Sherlock mean?

It's not an end of the world, answer all the puzzles of the galaxy question but it has bugged me since I viewed the series.

Re: Ugly American here with a dumb question.

If you say that someone or something is not a patch on another person or thing, you mean that they are not as good as that person or thing.
♦ not a patch on sb/sth phrase v-link PHR, PHR n

I'm kind of proud of my google-ful now. Hee.
I'm not a british but, google gave me this.
Hope this helps.

Benedict singing in TTEOTE


You know that scene in "To the Ends of the Earth" where Benedict is singing in Italian? Does anyone know where I might be able to find that a clip or sound byte of that? I can't even find it on YouTube...

Tobacco borturs -- looks like Mycroft's of the ciggies, as well

Re: Benedict singing in TTEOTE

I'm interested in seeing this too. The only clips I have of Benedict singing are from Cabin Pressure (Cremona and Johannesburg) and he's got such a lovely singing voice.

Is there any fictional characters that you think bare a lot of resemblances with Sherlock(esp BBC Sherlock) in terms of personality? I don't know, I've seen so many 'genius' characters on TV, but never have I actually seen such an unique character.

The most similar I can think of is the Doctor - did you see Eleven in "A Christmas Carol" making deductions just like Sherlock? He did that in "The Eleventh Hour" too. The Sherlock-John dynamic is very much like a Doctor-companion dynamic.

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Martin Freeman is genius. Witout him, the character must have been not half as much as interesting as it is now. Don't you think so?

(I heard some people called him a Depressed Potato. I think ii's friking cute not to mention the term perfectly decribes the character with surprisingly so lilttle words.)

..."Depressed Potato?" You might have to explain that to me. XDDD

Brit-pick question

I'm trying to find information about crossword puzzles in the UK.

In the US, the New York Times is the gold standard puzzle. Is there a UK equivalent? I'm thinking of regular crosswords, not cryptic ones.

Although, come to think of it.... Since we don't really have cryptic puzzles here, that might change things. Are regular crosswords made just absurdly easy, since all the good puzzlers want to try cryptic crosswords? And is there a better way to refer to regular crosswords than "regular crosswords"? Since we don't really have the distinction here, I don't know.

Basically, what I want to know is this: if I'm trying to show someone's GOOD at these things, what should I show them doing? I'm hoping there's a way to do that without having to figure out how cryptic crosswords work, since I've NEVER understood the darn things. (They just seem like a whole puzzle full of clues like the ones that piss me off when I find them in the NYT.)

Re: Brit-pick question

The Times crossword is the one that's usually given as the gold standard (this is the one that Inspector Morse tried to complete in under ten minutes every day). It is, however, a cryptic crossword, and I don't really think there's an equivalent gold-standard regular crossword.

There's an article in Wikipedia that gives a bit more detail about crosswords in various publications; there's more detail further up that article about the differences between UK and American cryptic crosswords, and the main crossword article has more explanation about that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptic_crossword#The_UK

I can't imagine Sherlock or Mycroft giving regular crosswords the time of day; John, Donovan or Lestrade might do them, and be privately quite pleased about being able to complete them. I can imagine Anderson going for the cryptic ones too, maybe.

I don't think regular crosswords are made especially easy, but there is an element of just needing to know lots of synonyms to be good at them, whereas cryptic crosswords are all about de-constructing the clue, applying sometimes quite arcane knowledge, and constructing the answer from that.

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