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This is a place for all sorts of off-topic discussion.

You can post anon or un-anon, per your personal preference, as usual.

All I ask is that you stay civil and (hopefully) friendly.

If you also want to use this thread to try to find a beta for a fic, or ask a brit-pick-ish question, I think that would be an acceptable use. Have fun!

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Hello!

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Why hello, new chatter post! I'm quite glad to see you. These past few hours would have been a terrible drag if not for the new "Karate Kid." Thanks for getting this part up so quickly, mods - I don't have anything of consequence to say, but I'm sure loads of other people do!

Spoilery for the Hobbit



There's a new blog for the Hobbit, with bits of Martin Freeman wielding a sword and looking utterly adorable in it.

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Let's talk about smut

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Okay, so I know this is like the millionth thread about "How do I write smut?" But I'm feeling completely hopeless at my attempts, and I think most of it is that I genuinely don't get the mechanics involved because I have no experience with it myself. I can't even write a decent kiss properly because the last time I kissed someone, the only thing I remember from it was that it was uncomfortable and wet and ughh too much saliva. I see lots of virgins and self-identified asexuals writing smut successfully, so this can't possibly be beyond me. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure I'm one step away from writing about how someone's breasts feel like bags of sand. /on track to being a 40-year-old virgin

I know the main tip in writing sex scenes or even kissing scenes is the emotional impact behind it, but how vague can you get really before you do have to put in some descriptions of what's physically going on? What do you do when you can't draw on experience to write something that's very reliant on your senses as you experience it?

Re: Let's talk about smut

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Here is the most useful link I know on the matter

http://trickster.org/res/howtowrite.html

but why write it if you don't enjoy writing it?

Say 'they kissed' let your readers see imagine it, leave it at that.

I really hope that if/when Benny goes to Hollywood*, he doesn't get his teeth fixed.

*that's my new 80s Brit Invasion tribute band.

They aren't bad at all. Maybe a little Chiclet-y but not bad.

Autistic(?) character from another fandom

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I know that fictional characters cannot be diagnosed (especially if the character's creator hasn't made a particular condition part of canon); but in another fandom (not Sherlock-related) we are curious about the condition of a little girl in the book. The author definitely intended for there to be something 'wrong' with the child, from infancy, but the work (written in the late 20th century) is set in the early 19th century, and many social/emotional/mental conditions that we diagnose today did not have definitions back then.

I know from reading comments throughout Sherlock fandom that there are a number of people familiar with autism and other social/emotional/mental conditions, and I was wondering if what the author describes about this fictional little girl sounds anything like autism, or anything else, or if he was just completely making something up.

Following are some passages about the girl. "Clarissa" is a friend of the family's; "Stephen" is the child's father (he's been away for several years from before the child was born; this is first introduction to his daughter). "Brigid" is the girl's name. "Diana" is the child's mother, who left because the emotional strain of caring for this child was too painful.

A small girl was building card-houses on a table near the grate. Clarissa murmured 'Do not mind if she does not speak,' and Stephen could feel the controlled anguish in her voice.

The girl at the table was lit by the fire and two candles: she was three-quarters turned towards Stephen and he saw a slim fair-haired child, quite extraordinarily beautiful: but with a disquieting, elfin, changeling beauty. Her movements as she handled the cards were perfectly coordinated; she glanced at Stephen and the others for a moment without the least interest, almost without ceasing to place her cards, and then carried on with the fifth storey.

'Come, my dear, and pay your duty to your father,' said Clarissa, taking her gently by the hand and leading her, unresisting, to Stephen. There she made her bob, standing as straight as a wand, and with only a slight shrinking away she allowed her face to be kissed. Then she was led to the others; their names were clearly stated; they too made their bobs and Brigid walked easily back to her card-house, unconscious of their smiling black faces, though she did look straight up into Padeen's for a moment.
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Clarissa said, 'The baby was put out to nurse, of course. When it came back it looked enchanting and she thought she would certainly love it. But already there was this total indifference. The child wished neither to love nor to be loved. Diana had never come across anything of the kind and she was completely bewildered as well as being wounded to the heart. When I came I think it was some relief, but it was not nearly enough and she grew more and more unhappy and often difficult. Her aunt Williams was very unkind indeed, I believe. And as time went on there was no improvement in Brigid: rather the reverse. The indifference grew to positive aversion, and even to a cold dislike.'
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'Can she speak at all?' he asked.

'I am not sure,' said Clarissa. 'On occasion I have heard her doing something very like it; but she always stops when I come in.'

'How much does she understand?'

'Almost everything, I believe. And unless she is in one of her bad days she is very good and biddable.'

'Affectionate, would you say?'

'I like to think so. Indeed, it is probable; but the signs are hard to make out.'


Any thoughts? Thank you!

Re: Autistic(?) character from another fandom

The aspergery sort of autism runs all the hell over my family tree. Before "asperger autism" was termed we called it "the family curse".

It looks like this writer is aiming at high functioning classic autism, though. Aspergery kids do learn language, just later and stilted.


It sounds like the character's girl can speak, she just sees no reason to speak. And considering that she seems rather unusually cooperative. Autistic kids have a tendency to be combative/resistant when forced to break with whatever the interest is. It's not that they dislike other people, so much as they regard other people as being uninteresting and unimportant. Therefore they see no reason to do whatever people want them to do -- especially not when they can continue to indulge their extremely pleasurable obsession.

Again as infants, it's not that they don't like to be cuddled, it's that they want to be doing something else more and your cuddling is getting in the way of them doing it.

British class system?

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Sorry if I got this wrong, but I've read somewhere that the British class system isn't based on wealth. My question is, then what exactly is it based on?

I think I'd be considered "working class" here in America (immigrant parents working unskilled jobs, no health insurance, low family income, shady neighborhood, yada yada yada), but I doubt anyone would still consider me that if I, idk, managed to graduate from an Ivy League school and became an executive at JPMorgan Chase or something. I heard that's not how the class system works in Britain, so I became curious. Enlighten me?

Re: British class system?

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The British class system is based on... a million signifiers, including everything you say/do/wear/drive/eat/decorate your house with/the newspaper your read/your job/your income/your parents' jobs and incomes/who you know/your education/your pronunciation of lieutenant/etc for all eternity.

There does tend to be a correlation between wealth and class, but not always. Roots/heritage play a big part in your perceived or identified class. Someone from your background who did the Ivy League thing and became an executive could well still consider themselves working class despite it all... or could be seen as a class betrayer if they started picking up signifiers for higher classes. And there's always the old cliche of the aristocratic, upper class family who've lost all their money but none of their status.

IT'S ALL IRRITATINGLY COMPLEX TBH

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Right, is anybody else's LJ inbox depressingly empty or is it just mine? Is LJ still not working for so many people that nobody is replying to prompts, chatting, commenting, filling, anything at all? :(

I haven't been able to get on LJ since yesterday. I was very much not happy about it!

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Possibly a bit TMI-y friend/relationship trouble...

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This probably sounds like a really weird problem but it's a bit difficult to talk about it with RL friends, them being part of said problem...

Has anyone else had trouble with keeping romantic feelings out of platonic, really really just friends relationships? Every time I meet new people and start making friends with them, it seems like I soon start misreading their intentions as romantic ones and, having zero interest in relationships, I just instinctively back off. I'm sort of worried if I know what a platonic friendship is supposed to be like, since I never really had friends as a kid. The first real friend I ever made was somewhere past puberty, and that eventually went awry when said friend wanted something more and I didn't. (She went as far as to say she loved me, and at 14 that was enough to make me bolt. Hell, it still would be.)

Then later another friend got a crush on me, and that time I decided to just say yes and see what happened. As you can guess, it didn't end well, as you'd except if you're dating out of obligation instead of actually wanting it. Now I'm soon starting uni in a new environment with new people, and I'd really like a fresh start and new, real friends. I'm just worried I'm somehow unconsciously sending people wrong messages or something, and would like to get it right for once.

(Sorry, I don't know if I had a point in there. There probably was one at the start and then it just got a bit blurry. Thank god for anon.)

Re: Possibly a bit TMI-y friend/relationship trouble...

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Just wanted to let you know you're not alone. I seem to have the same problem, except that instead of backing away, I find myself having romantic feelings for them simply because I feel like they have them for me. I have the same worry that it may be due to the fact that I never really had "real" friends. I too an starting uni and worry that I won't be able to have real friendships with those people because of this habit.

I LOVE DRUGS

DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS

Which kinds?

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Just found the new Chatter Post now... *facepalm* FML =P

FAVOURITE FANDOM TROPES: GO!

For me? Jam and BAMF. Never gets old.

Agreed on BAMF - disagree with the jam... maybe it's a Brit thing? I never quite understood it. While we're on this topic, wtf is the difference between jam and jelly??

Back on-topic - I like the whole "Sherlock isn't a sociopath but is just super smart and uncomfortable with his feeEEeeeEEeeelings" trope

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How I can tell I've been writing a lot of smut lately...

I just had an absolute giggle fit when I checked my "wips/prompts" folder and noticed I'd marked one "Molly/Lestrade Anal--to be filled" and thought that was my working title. And I sent an email to my mom asking for her to send me one of the cockbooks at her house. I used the phrase "cockbook" about five times in the email. *facepalm*

Re: How I can tell I've been writing a lot of smut lately...

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BAHAHAHAHAHA

reminds me of this:


how to get over your fear of the dark - as soon as you turn the lights off, start masturbating. no monster wants to see that shit. while you're doing it, stare into the corner and whisper, tenderly, "this is for you"

Any reason why you're reposting a FB comment that appeared on Failbook?

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So... apparently I'll be in Cardiff next week

(Anonymous)
and so far the only thing I know is that there's a Doctor Who tour with my name on it.

Any ideas on what's unmissable? Particularly of the Sherlocky kind, but any and all touristy advice will be cherished and taken to heart.

(And if anyone knows of any scheduled location shootings, they wouldn't go totally amiss - although with my luck, I'm pretty sure they'll be on location in London while I'm there *grumble*)

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And if anyone knows of any scheduled location shootings, they wouldn't go totally amiss - although with my luck, I'm pretty sure they'll be on location in London while I'm there *grumble*

This happened to me two weeks ago! Trust me, nonnie, it stings a bit. I was only there for a short amount of time but Cardiff Bay's definitely worth a visit, especially the Ianto memorial if you're into Torchwood. (And it's right next to a brilliant ice cream shop that's won loads of awards for gourmet ice creams, if you need any further incentive). The Doctor Who exhibition is closed now but a bigger one's opening in Cardiff next year. The best thing to do for shooting locations would be to stalk twitters I think - Sherlockology would be a good place to start. I hope you have fun!

Let's imagine a huge room filled with the entire Holmes family. What is the correct way to write about it?

The Holmes or the Holmeses?

Holmes. If it ends with a hard "z" sound, you don't add the "es."

"Jones" might be an exception, as people say "the Joneses" - however, I can imagine someone pronouncing "Jones" with a soft "s" sound. I can't imagine anyone doing that with "Holmes."

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Paid Account?

(Anonymous)
Just wondering if the paid account is worth spending the money on. I've used LJ for a while, but I don't post a lot unless it's fic, but I like the idea of being able to subscribe to comment threads, especially for things like this meme. I'm just wondering how many features you find yourself using, and if you think it would be worth it.

P.S I just got the two week free trial so I'm going to play a bit, but still curious.

Re: Paid Account?

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I had a paid account for a while, and I didn't really find any of the features worth the money (I never posted much, though). I think the only things I liked were the ability to edit comments and subscribe to threads, but I never actually ended up editing much, and I just use this (http://userscripts.org./scripts/show/72504) for thread subscriptions now.

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Speaking of class system in the UK, would it be possible that class change occurs only over one generation? In other words, would it be possible for a person to have 'working class' grandparents while he/she identifies themselves and their parants to be 'upper class'?

And I'm curious, how much actors/actresses' class backgrounds would affect their career, and in what way?

Is there any invisible rule that characters from upper class should be played by upper class actors/actresses?

The thing about class is that it is a lot less about how you self-identify and more more about others identify you (and a lot of British comedy is based on the disparity between the two perceptions.) So really someone identifying themselves as upper class is neither here nor there wrt to the class they actually are.

That being said, Kate Middleton's parents were flight attendants (albeit now millionaires) and her children will be futures monarchs so, yes - you can go up the classes over a couple of generations.

The actor and actress thing depends on the actor and their range and preferences. Ray Winstone, who grew up in London council estates has made a career of playing east end tough guys and is unlikely to ever play posh. But the actors who have played monarchs in films recently have either been farily solidly middle class (Helen Mirren = Elizabeth II; Colin Firth = George VI; Emily Blunt = Victoria; Nigel Hawthorne = George III) or not British at all (Jonathan Rhys Meyers: Henry VIII; Cate Balnchett: Elizabeth I).

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I was wondering if anyone on this lovely meme would be able to give me a hand for a chat about Inception - I'm wanting to work on a fic, only I don't have any Inception fandom friends and I could really use someone to help sort through my ideas with.

The fic in question is shaping up to be an Arthur/Eames-y type fic, only with small elements of heist!fic and not so small elements of wing!fic. :)

The Rattigan Enigma

(Anonymous)
The Rattigan Enigma presented by BC. First on BBC4 yesterday. Now available on iPlayer.

Re: The Rattigan Enigma

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Is iPlayer still UK only?

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Characters' off-screen spouses

(Anonymous)
Mycroft's got a ring in his hand, so does Lestrade, Anderson's got a wife, Mrs. Hudson used to be married.

So what do you think these wives and husbands are like?

Personally I believe Mycroft had a husband. They met pretty young, 20~ish (maybe went to a same school), and got married pretty soon after. Their love was platonic, and they got married because then the social pressure of looking a spouse would be taken off their shoulders. They really cared about each other. Mycroft's husband probably had some sort of government job too. He was pretty intelligent and all-around a nice man.
Then he died. I'm thinking car accident, or some other accident, sudden and something Mycroft could not have prevented.
And Mycroft visits his grave every year on the anniversary of his death.

(Mycroft says his name was Larsen, I guess he was the Danish government then...)

Re: Characters' off-screen spouses

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My headcanon: Mrs Hudson was a wild child in the sixties, married unwisely to a man who appeared to a be a kindred spirit in the seventies, but who was actually just an arsehole with a drink and drug problem who grew into a miserable, middle-aged git with violent tendencies and a wandering eye who ended up killing his latest "conquest" whilst out of his tree. Mrs H and he had some good, wild, times, but mostly in the early days when it was all still fun and games.

Lestrade I tend to picture either married young to the love of his life and then widowed, or married a couple of times but his workaholic tendencies. In the latter case, I reckon one of his ex-wives cheated on him, and he's still angry and bitter, but also knows that he was effectively an absent husband and pushed her into a lonely existence. He's probably single again now, and doesn't notice that he's getting hit on all the time.

Mycroft doesn't wear a wedding ring, it's on his right hand, not his left.

I reckon Mrs Anderson knows about sally, and is in the process of working out whether to bother trying to save the marriage or not.

I need your help meme!

I'm writing a fic in which Sherlock and John get together after much pining and then they have sex (yeah, I know, it will revolutionize the fandom). Once they're a couple, how should they refer to each other while I'm writing from their POV?

Would John look at his lover? His sweetheart? His partner? Something else I haven't thought of?

How about just Sherlock? (Please?)

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Anyone have links to good rec lists? I'm new to the fandom and I really want to start reading more.

Anything in particular you'd like to read?

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A question for the Brits (NSFW, if that matters...)

What is the most commonly or a commonly used euphemism for anal sex, something that would be used in a conversation between male friends, or female friends, or hell, let's be equitable, friends, period? Like people just chatting about their sex lives.

Re: A question for the Brits (NSFW, if that matters...)

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I was waiting to see what other people said...but no one has. So I'll weigh in XD

It really depends on the people. Just 'anal' is never going to leave anyone in any doubt.

'Bum fun' is much sillier, but is still used in conversation - especially if you're being silly anyway, laughing about sex, with close friends - not looking to be too serious.

'Up the arse/in the arse', if it's blokes talking in a 'blokey' slangy way.

I'm sure there are plenty more, but those I'd think were some common ones.


Hey poster from the last discussion post with the two crushes

I tried really hard to reply to this thing from the last chatter post, but there was some weird Russian political issue and Livejournal became difficult, you all know of what I speak. So!

Anonymous person, I think the word for you is normal, but that's my bias because I'm the same way. Romantic feelings are precious, and precious is a synonym for rare.

The timing of a romantic feeling has a lot to do with its end result, if the timing of your infatuations had been different, they might have lead to something else. Sometimes I wonder if being someone that fell head over heels all the time would be easier--maybe I'd be more likely to return the feelings of some interested party, but that's probably just grass-is-greener.

Are there any other gay women here writing m/m slash?

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People find it weird to think of a lesbian writing about two men... I feel so lonely! XD Please tell me I'm not the only one...

Re: Are there any other gay women here writing m/m slash?

One of my bffs is a lesbian and writes m/m slash in another fandom... And an ex of mine who came out recently is a gay man writing femmeslash...

What doe british kids do for some quick casual cash?

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Lemonade stands?

Carwashes?

Garage Sales?

Mow lawns?

Walk dogs?

Re: What doe british kids do for some quick casual cash?

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Define "kids"? Under the age of 16, they're not allowed to do very much at all in terms of legal work, so it'd be a paper round or a car boot sale if they could persuade someone with a car to do it with them. Possibly trade in a few games or sell some junk on ebay.

Over 16, get a saturday job in something low grade and badly paid, probably shop work of some kind.

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